Briefing FIA in Sochi on the incident with Bianchi
On Friday evening the representatives of FIA President Jean Todt, race Director Charlie whiting, senior medical officer Jean-Charles Drinks and coordinator of a team of rescuers Jan Roberts - held a press conference dedicated to the accident Jules Bianchi in Suzuka.
The press conference lasted for almost an hour and a half. The journalists were shown the footage of the cameras in the seventh rotation, which shows that Sutil and Bianchi flew off the track in one place, but Jules was not deployed, he tried to catch the car - in the end it made straight with locked wheels directly to the tractor. Filming in the hall is strictly prohibited, and those who still tried to shoot lost their cameras and phones.
Jean Todt of Course, all still overwhelmed with emotion. We wanted to hold this meeting with you, to comment on the tragedy that occurred this past weekend in Suzuka. You know its consequences Jules Bianchi at the moment continues to battle for his life in hospital near Suzuka, mie province. We feel that it would be appropriate to share information with you, to answer your questions.
To start with I would like to give some explanation, then my people will be able to answer your questions. I asked Charlie Whiting, the race Director of the FIA, to make a detailed report about what happened last weekend. I got it this morning. He will comment on it for you. I also asked the Chairman of the security Commission to establish an expert group to comment on the report and make suggestions to similar to what happened last Sunday, is never repeated.
We know that motor sport is dangerous. Thanks to the huge efforts in recent years, there were no serious incidents, except for what happened with Felipe Massa in Budapest in 2009. What happened with Jules last Sunday, perhaps the most difficult in recent years the incident.
To the left of me sat Professor Jean-Charles Drinking and Dr. Jan Roberts. As you know, they were involved in the decision making process before the race. Ian Roberts, when the accident occurred, was with Jules in the car on the way to the hospital. They both remained in the hospital until Tuesday. Tuesday Gerard Sayan, President of the FIA Institute, arrived in Suzuka and worked closely with Japanese doctors, along with another Italian Professor, who helped to coordinate efforts with the family Jules. This is the situation today.
Now I would like to give the floor to Charlie Whiting that will acquaint you with various aspects of what happened.
Charlie whiting showing members of the press on the screen shots from fixed cameras on the track in Suzuka we have a couple of videos that we would like to show. We ask you to postpone mobile phones, not to shoot. We want to show you the record from stationary cameras.
The first camera 11, this is the first part of the seventh rotation, which can be seen as went off the track Adrian Sutil. You can see that the trajectory drier than the rest of the painting, but due to the increased rain water begins to flow and trajectory. When the cars drove a little wider in this place. You see that Adrian came to this part of the canvas and lost control of the machine. It hurt a little more wet part of the track. At this moment he is behind Jules - he loses control on machine and it expands.
If we flash a picture on a lap later, we will see that Jules happened something very similar.
You can see that Jules loses control of the machine. He arrives on the same wet area, but it does not expand as Adrian. It begins to slide, but it adjusts the machine, and then the car moves along a slightly different trajectory.
This video shows the beginning of two incidents. You see how the machine Jules starts to go sideways, and then he corrects.
With this camera we will show both the incident. You saw the beginning of the departure of Adrian, you will now see an accident. We scroll through the video, you will see the tractor. Let's see all the videos. In the background you can see fluttering flag and yellow. At the moment we haven't replaced him on a double yellow.
When the tractor starts to move, we changed the light on "double yellow" on the scoreboard. Now you can see and actually double yellow flags. As the tractor and the machine Sauber is on this side of the post 12, the yellow flags. Because the incident occurred after it. But, as you can see, as soon as they lift the car, move back, and he passes the post, the signal changes from yellow to green.
Now you see the green flags, because the post is already after the incident site. Now you will see a machine Jules.
This is the video that was available to us. I thought it would be constructive if you will see him. Now I can answer your questions, but first I wanted you to see it.
Question Charlie, can you explain what is the difference between the conditions when you decide that enough double yellow flags, and those in which you release the car security Because much has been said about the fact that it could appear on the track.
Charlie whiting We put double yellow flags, because they thought that with the consequences of an incident could cope without the use of machine safety. The next step is, of course, the issue onto the machine security, but because the machine Adrian Sutil was away from the road, this was a natural decision on our part in similar circumstances. We did not see the need to release the track car security at the moment.
Question have you ever Seen a telemetry with this machine Dropped if he speed under double yellow flags on this sector, in the area of the double yellow flags What was his speed, when he flew off the track
Charlie whiting I know what speed he flew off the track. We have seen data from all machines.
A lot of cars drove through the sector with double yellow flags, but not all slowed down so. Some slowed down quite a bit, some slowed down much. I don't think we will go into detail how much slowed Jules compared with others. We have these data. He slowed down. There is a matter of degree.
Question do we Know how fast he crashed into a tractor
Charlie whiting it is Impossible to get accurate data when the machine is flying through the gravel. You can only use the GPS data, but to count on them really hard. This is not a good idea to analyze such datauntil until a full investigation into the incident, a detailed analysis of the video as well as GPS data. So far we are not able to speak with confidence about what was the speed at the moment of collision with a tractor. It would be too early for us to tell you the exact figures.
Question it is Clear that retroactively make decisions much easier, but in retrospect, do you feel you could have done something differently And knowing what you know now, what lessons you can learn
Charlie whiting Yes, I think there are some conclusions that we need to do. We want to involve all teams and all pilots to ensure that it will be a good, well-designed and realized during many years of ideas. I think one of the most important aspects is that it might be better to pick up the pilots the right to determine how much they need to slow down in the event of such incidents.
It is better to create a system that is understandable for all, which would determine the extent to which the machine is set to slow in such conditions. On this we are now working. Tomorrow morning will be a meeting with all teams to discuss this possibility and method of use a kind of speed limit. Most likely, it will not be a specific limit, but, as I see it, a way of controlling the speed of pilots with clear rules and boundaries.
Question Charlie, if you manage to develop a system that could control the speed of vehicles, does it mean that the safety car will leave the track much less
Charlie whiting Yes, I think it's possible. But it would have the same effect. If you force all drivers to slow down to a certain temp, they will retain their positions relative to each other - so that would be about the same as the first two rounds at the check-out safety car. If Directorate of race requires "a short intervention, then perhaps in such cases, you can get by without car security.
However, in some situations, the safety car will be necessary. Sometimes it is necessary to control the speed of vehicles in certain areas of the track.
Question In a situation like in Suzuka, when the rain is getting stronger, how difficult is it to determine whether pilots react to signals in a changing environment
Charlie whiting This is harder, but not impossible. The system that we have, uses data from previous circles, comparing them. She "knows"how the tempo slows down or speeds up. We try to analyze the last few laps, the system can detect and show us pilots who, perhaps not enough has slowed in the current circumstances. We can then explore the situation in more detail. If the race is dry, you can trust this data with greater confidence. But because the conditions Suzuka has changed, we would have to analyze the data after the race in any case.
Question Who decided to send a tractor on the highway, and who decided to post a green flag
Charlie whiting the Tractor was sent to the scene by the race direction. If the machine is stuck in the gravel, obviously it should be taken therefrom. This was done immediately. The marshals were instructed to enter the ring and begin to evacuate the car.
The solution for the green flag was made by the Marshal on duty. As soon as the tractor with the machine Sauber was behind this point, the correct signal is green. He was yellow until, as the tractor was still ahead of the post, and changed to green when he was behind. These decisions are always taken by the flag marshals.
Question Charlie, two questions. The first is why it was decided to hold the race, if you knew about the approaching Typhoon Second - Felipe Massa said that was screaming on the radio that the race was stopped. Did you hear that
Charlie whiting For a start. The start time of the race is not a matter of discussion by the FIA. I suggested to the organizers to consider moving the start to an earlier time in order still to hold her, because the forecast was worse than the weather turned out to be actually. They didn't want to do that. I warned them that we will not hold the race if the conditions are unsafe, and that the probability that they will not race. They said, "No, we want to leave the start time at three o'clock". For me, the start time of the race in no way connected with the incident we are discussing.
The second question was about Felipe Massa. No, we have not heard that he was screaming on the radio. We now have pereslushala all that Felipe said. I think what he said to you, not entirely true. I have not heard that he was screaming on the radio. He mentioned only that "conditions on the road worse." It was the only thing he said on the radio. I don't think it means "to shout on the radio". He said that conditions were deteriorating, but we usually.
We don't listen to all the messages on the radio that the pilots pass - it's just impossible, so we rely on team who are informed if their pilots have something important to tell us. I'm sure they give us isn't all that said pilots For example some pilots have any concerns about visibility, after he had left the safety car and before the race was stopped, but only two teams told us that the visibility of their pilots have serious problems.
Question One Williams
Charlie whiting Yes, one of them is Williams. But, as far as I know, Felipe said that conditions deteriorate even before the appearance on the track machine security, and treated his comments rather to the fact that increased rain. The message about the poor visibility was later.
Question On various roads you use the tow truck of different manufacturers, some of them large balances that are just at the level of the head of the racer. You are not going now to change the approach For example, to only use cranes
Charlie whiting this is not so simple. As you know, the wrecker - in this case, the tractor must be heavy enough to lift the machine, it should be high enough ground clearance. He has opposed or not depends on the design. Such tractors we have successfully used for over 20 years, or even longer, and I don't think they should be changed urgently.
We had an hour discussion with riders, but we've discussed this issue, and one option that was suggested - this equipment evacuators kind of protective skirts. This option is worth considering, and we will do it.
As for the cranes, their range is limited. For example, in the 7th rotation Suzuki we'd need four or five taps are guaranteed to cover the entire area. If you remember Montreal, there is a crane in the area of exit of the 4th turn. But he can act only 50 metres from the wall, so sometimes you have to manually push in the area of his reach. For example, on the track in Monaco a lot of taps, but there and marshals a lot, and there is a danger that someone could be hit by a car. So the complexity is, therefore, we believe that all these issues require detailed discussion.
Question do You think that show a green flag was a mistake
Charlie whiting No, it was absolutely the right signal, since this flag was found after the accident. You must understand it does not mean that as soon as you see the green signal, you should start to attack in full force. You can do that at the moment when at head with a green flag. The same applies to yellow flags if on the first turn yellow flags, it does not mean that you should drop the speed, while with them, not at head. So you can prabhavati speed and begin to overtake only when it reaches the green flags.
Question please Explain the situation with the delivery of Jules medical center. We saw the helicopter rose into the air, but the driver was taken by ambulance.
Jean-Charles Drinks Usually on the road should be two helicopters. In the first two days of the week-end problems with the helicopters was not, but on Saturday night we were informed that the helicopter could not stay on the track at night in connection with a potential risk of damage due to the approaching Typhoon. The helicopter flew to Nagoya.
Early Sunday morning we received news that he was unable to return due to bad weather conditions. In accordance with our rules, we held a meeting and decided to make a major medical center hospital mie Prefecture, which is located 15 km from the road. Under normal conditions this way can be done in 25 minutes. This decision was taken on Sunday before 10am.
Closer to 11.30 helicopter was able to get back on track. But it was the decision to hold the race, even if the helicopter is not. All this is fully in line with our policies.
Such cases have already been earlier, for example, in 2009 and 2010 When the accident happened with Bianca, it was found that the helicopter can fly up from the road, but to land near the hospital does not allow the weather conditions. Therefore, we used the original plan, which was adopted early in the morning, and the driver was taken to medical center by ambulance. In those specific circumstances, it took 32 minutes.
Question I'd Like to hear your expert opinion did this delay on the state of Jules Bianchi
Ian Roberts the Total time spent on transportation racer, was 37 minutes, during this period was carried out detailed monitoring of his condition, and he was taken to hospital in absolutely the same physiological condition as it was at the time of shipment from the highway.
Question When FIA was last discussed the revision of safety standards, and how often you return to this theme
Charlie whiting I don't remember when the last time it was discussed protective skirts for tractors, but it was a long time ago. Subject head protection rider, the use of closed cockpits has recently been discussed and this discussion continues. As you know, it was after the incident with Felipe Massa and Henry Certicom. We spent quite in-depth study of this topic, a lot of experimenting, and the study is not completed.
It is very difficult to find a solution that would provide sufficient strength, but at the same time not interfere with the driver to work in the cockpit that the presence of such a system is not reflected. It is not easy. Meeting on security issues will be held next Thursday, and the solver will continue.
Question it was Not possible to postpone the start of the race at an earlier time, primarily to ensure that it is finished when it was still relatively light
Charlie whiting From my point of view, it would be useful. The organizers of the race was able to move it to an earlier time, but I don't think we are faced with a situation more complex than it could be. I do not think that the visibility was in serious trouble. I have already said that the race was conducted in strict accordance with the schedule, which we usually adhere to. This does not affect security. If it is too wet, we would simply not have it to spend.
Q You presented to the President of the FIA preliminary or final report, and whether it is in the public domain
Charlie whiting I would say that this version is close to the final. Need to add some information, but we are not yet fully decided who will be available this document. When reporting, we wanted to gather as much information, and must first submit it to the Commission on security, and it will select the group of experts who will examine all the issues raised. But I can't yet say who will have access to this report.
Question Tomorrow you will be meeting with teams on security issues. Is there any chance that in this weekend will be introduced some adjustments in the mode yellow flags and speed limits
Charlie Whiting It Is Unlikely. I have no doubt that we will be able to negotiate, but the machine consists of a huge number of different systems, it is very difficult to quickly achieve operability of such decision. Moreover, it is extremely important that the new system worked exactly the same on all machines. I think we should not rush to implement any changes as early as this weekend.
Question You talked about testing some solutions aimed at protecting the head of the racer. You know the results of these experiments. If to speak about the incident at Suzuka how you think, whether in the foreseeable future to appear a solution that can withstand such a blow
Charlie whiting I Think a clear answer to this question to give yet. But as I said, we had a solution to protect the rider from impact without wheels. There are preliminary signs that the forces acting on the car when hitting the fence route, or as was the case with the machine Jules, much larger than those with which we dealt in the course of the tests" class="posttag">tests. We try to accurately estimate the impact energy, but I suspect that in this case, under these particular circumstances, it would be extremely difficult to find a solution that would protect the head of the racer.
Question Given the consequences of the accident, you are not going to make any special crash tests" class="posttag">tests, which simulated the collision of the machine with an obstacle, like the tow truck
Charlie whiting This depends on the results of the analysis of injuries machine Jules, I do not exclude that it is necessary to consider the possibility of giving additional strength to the existing security structures. Again, I think it would be inappropriate to attempt to consider the circumstances of this particular accident. We try, whenever possible, to take into account the experience of all incidents, for example, a few years ago in Suzuka accident in which Timo Glock has hurt her leg, and then we had to deal with injuries of the chassis, which did not work. On the experience of similar accidents we learn. So shall it be in this case.
Question Charlie, could you tell me when will the changes made to the rules governing the appearance on the track tractors This will happen at the beginning of the next season
Charlie whiting Actually, if we are talking about such changes, at the beginning of next season, Yes.
Question According to Adrian Sutil, he was not asked about what happened, about what he saw from his point. You spoke with him
Charlie whiting No, not yet.
Question But will it
Charlie whiting Yes, we definitely will discuss what he saw. But I guess he had little to add, because we have the video of the evacuation of the entire incident. He was there, saw that, probably, would not like to see. No, we haven't discussed yet. Perhaps, while it is not the best time.
Question Charlie, I would also like to know how fast you received information about the incident
Charlie whiting With a little delay. Because the car hadn't been seen. My first thought when we looked at the screen with a tractor, was "the Evacuation took longer than I expected." It didn't look normal, it is usually the marshals in Suzuka work very quickly. Then they said "the Car crashed into a tractor." This is what they gave with the post, but I haven't seen her for a tractor. It took us some time to consider another camera that there really is a machine.
But it was impossible to understand wounded anyone, and the condition of the pilot. When we know, we sent the track the safety car and medical car. You couldn't see, it was not shown live, and on the camera, the image with which we looked, this was nowhere to be seen. With the camera 11 we could not be seen, and the camera 12 has been rotated in the wrong direction. As soon as we launched, we could see the car. But it took some time. Probably not more than 20 seconds, but for some time we remained in ignorance.
Question Jean, you talked about the expert Council, which will review the circumstances of the accident, which will include Charlie. Who else will it contain You said that to attract the best experts.
Jean Todt I know that you are familiar with the organization of the FIA. Of course, you know that security Commission headed by Peter Wright we have medical Commission there is Charlie in the technical Committee and several high-ranking people. That's why I asked Peter Wright to gather expert advice from qualified professionals. Everyone knows Peter and his strengths, I expect that he will help in this question.
Question How long will it take expert advice in order to come to conclusions. Do you have a deadline to which you are waiting for them
Jean Todt the Chairman of the expert Council Peter Wright today received my request, after this morning I received a report Charlie. I have to meet with Wright on Wednesday in Geneva. There will be a meeting, which is always done after serious accidents.
Question How to work a helmet and HANS Did you manage to get some information after this incident
Charlie whiting it is still too early to draw any conclusions. You can look at the helmet and to assess the damage.
We have several experts, in particular Andy Mellor. This is a very detailed and brilliant engineer. He was responsible for the design of the helmet, the so-called specifications 8860 - it is now used for the racers. The investigation began after the death of Ayrton Senna, and his creation took a long time.
Now we must be very careful to analyze. Andy is well able to restore the circumstances of Avaria, we will provide all data and photos. Then we need to understand how received damage and what needs to be done to prevent such things.
To put it all together is quite a complex process. But it will be done, and all that we can learn will be useful in improving the design of the helmet. The processes are the same as in the days when we worked with Mizoram after the accident Felipe Mass in Hungary in 2009 the result is a Kevlar band, which is now all use.
Question is there Enough of the expert or you do not have any specialists
Charlie whiting No, at the moment I don't think so.
Question Charlie, you have the opportunity to tell drivers that they are traveling at too high a temp
Question Given that not all riders slowed double yellow flags, how strong was the impact
Charlie whiting If you look at the first data on the speed of the car. There was a barrier of three layers of tires, the accident would have been comparable with the incident of Heikki Kovalainen in Barcelona in 2007 But this is a very approximate information, I can't say for sure. But given that the barrier of the three layers of the tires and it was already the machine, at such a speed that the accident was of the same order.
Question Charlie, do not feel that their role could be played by coating the security zone If there was asphalt, it would be stronger to slow down
Charlie whiting This is the fact that on all routes, we played asphalt security zone in any condition better the gravel traps. That is why all new routes are mainly used asphalt security zone.
On older tracks don't, but this does not mean that they are unsafe, we performed tests" class="posttag">tests on all routes, not just the new. But it is a fact that in most cases the asphalt better. However, in this particular case, we cannot say that everything would be different if there was asphalt, because we don't know for sure. But in most cases the asphalt better.
Question According to the received information can you talk about any mechanical problems with the car before the incident, which could cause a crash
Charlie whiting At the moment there are no signs of any mechanical problems.
Question Jean, how was this week for you personally emotionally
Jean Todt I am familiar with Jules since then, when he was 15 years old. While racing, I sometimes talked with his great-grandfather Lucien Bianchi. In addition, I remember that together with Mauro Bianchi went to the French hospital, specializing in burns, because he got a very serious injury. It so happened that he is familiar with my son. Nicolas works with Jules from 15 years of age and strongly believe in it.
Of course, on the one hand, my priority is to lead the FIA, which has two main areas of work - road and sport. But like any human, I have emotions, and I had a hard time. But I must say that every accident is deeply touches me. I had to leave Japan, but I five times per day to check how the situation is developing. That is why now our main responsibility is to analyze what happened and make sure that this will not happen again. But, as I said, racing is dangerous and can not absolutely guarantee that accidents won't happen. However, we will never be satisfied, for we will always be important to achieve greater security.
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